Two Global Excellence Awards and a Live Podcast in Bangkok

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Host

00:00 Award for Spiritual Leadership, Supernatural and Ultimate Solutions for Humanity in 2026 and it goes to Prof. (Hon.) Dr. SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP. Please come to the stage. Thank you. Great work. Thank you.

00:34 I really love your speech. Okay. Yep. One more. Wow. Look at her. David, you must be very proud. Don't you? Would you like to share something? Okay.

PROF. (HON.) DR. SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP

00:54 Yeah, I thank the God of the Universe that every achievement without Him, nothing is impossible. Because from day one, since 30 years ago, I have zeroed my flesh, my soul and my spirit. And I have also zeroed all my desire. So I walk into them, whatever they want to speak and do. So basically, they walk into me, speak to me, feel to me, think through me, through to me. So I'm a steward. So I would say everything that we receive is what actually Heaven has declared and decreed that they need a voice of influence on earth. And they get people to come and approach us for award, and Heaven tell us what award they want to give to represent the voice to create the influence and the impact they have actually destined, because the voice need to speak loud, louder and loudest, so that the entire earth can be safe. Thank you. God bless you.

Host

02:02 Thank you so much, Professor. Our next award is the Global Excellence Award for Divine Understanding, Theological Wisdom and Transformational Leadership and Excellence in 2026, and it goes to Dr. J AARON K DAVID. Please. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. A brief word for our audience.

DR. J AARON K DAVID

02:58 Okay. Well, our presence, [SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP] and me, is for a purpose. Because it seems that everybody has the opinion that God is dead. So they have to live their own life. God is not interested in humanity, in us. For the poor, for those in poverty, for those in famine, God is so far from us. And for the evil, God cannot touch us. But I want to tell you something, from this day onwards, to every nation, to every government, to every liberal, to every evil people, to every oppressed people, God is going to show up to both of us. They can despise, they can scoff, they can mock, but God has the last laugh. Yup. Thank you.

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00:00 · Welcome and the theme

00:02 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to this special Global Leadership Podcast, presented alongside the Global Excellence in Leadership 2026 here in Bangkok. Today, I'm joined by two remarkable authors, entrepreneurs and spiritual teachers, whose work explores leadership, entrepreneurship, and the biblical Trinity, divine counsel, humanity's transformation and the highest destiny of mankind. Our theme today is a very special theme.

00:34 It is about Heaven solutions for humanity and the highest destiny for mankind. Please let me introduce our chief guest for today. The first guest is Professor Honorary Dr. SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP, Ph.D., Ph.D., Doctor of Letters. Dr. SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP is the founder, managing partner, co-managing director of Crowned Eagles Global Group of Companies, an honorary professor of practice, an author, and a spiritual teacher whose work focuses on applied counsel

00:43 · Introducing SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP

01:08 and divine counsel. Please give her a round of applause, please. Thank you. Let me take her through the academic background step by step. She has six doctorate-level recognitions, linked to the European International University in Paris, known as EIU Paris, and International American University, known as AIU. First of all, starting with the EIU Paris, she has

01:40 four remarkable ones. First is the Professional Doctorate in Leadership, Entrepreneurship, Applied Counsel and Divine Counsel, a conferred sector-specific honorary professional title. The second is Professional Doctorate in Divinity and Spirituality, a conferred sector-specific honorary professional title. The third is a Doctor of Philosophy in Leadership, Entrepreneurship, Applied Counsel and Divine Counsel, fully conferred by the EIU Paris.

02:13 So next is the Doctor of Letters, Honoris Causa in Divinity and Spirituality, fully conferred by the EIU Paris on 16 September in 2026 as an Honorary Higher Doctorate. Then to the International American University, there are two more Honorary Doctorates. These are all recorded in her master profile as conditional, with the final diploma documentation still pending. The first is the Doctor of Philosophy, Honoris Causa, in Leadership and

02:47 Entrepreneurship, Applied Counsel and Divine Counsel. The second is Doctor of Philosophy, Honoris Causa, in Divinity and Spirituality. Moreover, Dr. SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP also holds the distinction of Honorary Professor of Practice, in stewardship, leadership, and divine counsel, associated with EIU Paris. Her work explores spiritual understanding, divine counsel, entrepreneurship, leadership, faith, restoration, and her teachings about

03:18 the Creator of the Universe. And on 22nd of October, just three days ago, at The BrandLaureate Award in Kuala Lumpur, she received The BrandLaureate Brand ICON Leadership Award 2026 for Enduring Business Stewardship and Humanitarian Impact. Dr. SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP, welcome and thank you so much for being with us today. Thank you. It's an honor to be here. Wonderful. And today, joining her is my second guest,

03:44 · Introducing J AARON K DAVID

03:49 Dr. J AARON K DAVID, Ph.D. Dr. J AARON K DAVID, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having us today. J AARON K DAVID is the Co-Founder and Partner of Crowned Eagles Global Limited Liability and CE Global Network Limited LLP and serves as the Chief Advisory and Support Officer for five private limited companies within the group. Dr. J AARON K DAVID has also three doctorate-level recognitions, and also

04:22 linked with the EIU Paris and IAU. I will name all of them. Two come from EIU Paris. The first is the Professional Doctorate in Theology and Divine Understanding, a conferred sector-specific honorary professional title. The second is Doctorate of Philosophy in Theology and Divine Understanding, formally conferred by the EIU Paris, with diploma and official accredited transcript dated 16 September 2026.

04:53 And one more. An honorary doctorate through IAU, recorded as conditional with a final diploma documentation still pending. Doctor of Philosophy, Honoris Causa, in Theology and Divine Understanding.

05:24 Dr. J AARON K DAVID's work explores theology, divine understanding, spiritual transformation, and the development of perfected human character and humanity's relationship with the Creator of the Universe. And on the 22nd, in Kuala Lumpur, he also received The BrandLaureate Brand ICON Leadership Award 2026 for Transformational Leadership and Purpose. Dr. J AARON K DAVID, welcome to you as well. Thank you. Thank you.

05:54 · The group and the Behold My Messenger series

05:54 The two of them has led this group together in different roles. So let me explain one by one. Dr. SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP is the founder and managing partner of Crowned Eagles Global LLP and CE Global Network LLP and managing director of five companies, including CE Global Network International Private Limited, Crown International Private Limited, Private

06:27 Limited, CEG Malaysia Holdings Private Limited, CEG Malaysia Holdings Sendirian Berhad, and CEG Portfolio of SMM Sendirian Berhad, the co-founder and partner of those same two LLPs, and chief advisory and support officer for those same five companies, all together, that is seven entities across Singapore and Malaysia.

06:58 Both are co-authors of a five-volume spiritual series called Behold My Messenger. It presents their theological teachings, spiritual testimonies about the Word of the Lord, the Messenger of the Lord, the biblical Trinity, divine counsel, spiritual transformation, resurrection, and humanity's relationship with the Creator of the Universe. So today, guys, we'll explore the two connected themes. With Dr. SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP, I will talk about the Heaven solutions for humanity

07:32 through applied counsel and divine counsel, healing, restoration, and the hope of resurrection. With Dr. J AARON K DAVID, we'll look at divine understanding, spiritual transformation, leadership, and the highest purpose and destiny of mankind. Let us begin. Humanity has come so far in science, medicine, and technology and government, and yet some problems still seem impossible to solve.

07:55 · The root of every problem is spiritual

08:04 So through applied counsel and divine counsel, how do people seek wisdom beyond the conventional thinking? Basically, behind the source and the root of every problem lies in the spiritual world. The physical world is a manifestation of the problems or the blessings. So we have to go back to the root cause of the source of happening, which is a spiritual world. So if you are talking about, uh, humanity, are we talking about healings? Okay, if you are talking about healings,

08:38 uh, human beings are being created according to the image of the Creator. They are being created because the Creator is, uh, He Himself is made up of the living Word, which is the law of the universe, okay? So when He creates human, He creates human according, according to His image, which is according to the law of the universe. Our bodies are being formed according to the principles of the law of the universe. So every vertebrae in our body and the 50 acupuncture points in our body actually correspond to the 50 laws of the universe, or you call it the

09:12 50 protocols of Heaven. So what happens is when, let's say, for example, whether knowingly or unknowingly, this applies to every humanity on earth. So when they break a certain protocol, they may not realize that they break because they don't know there's such thing called protocols, right? But they will experience sabotage consequences in their health, in their financial situation, in different parts of a problem they are facing, especially in their health. So what happens is people can go for a medical treatment

09:46 and everything. They are only treating the symptoms, but the root cause is in the spiritual world. So it's in the protocols that they broke. So they can meanwhile kind of subdue and subdue the, the symptom, but they cannot cure the root, right? So what happens when you know the root cause, you know which protocol they break, right? You undo it, right? And then you restore back the protocol by maybe, you know, casting out that thing that is there, that's not supposed to be there, that darkness that came in, right? And then you undo it, then you can actually be healed, like, I would

10:19 say, within five minutes. Whereas conventional science or medicine, they give you medication to subdue your symptoms. They do not take care of that root, which is a spiritual thing that have come in to invade the human body and causing certain disease and illness. That's a very strong message, Doctor, and I think addressing the root causes, as you mentioned, is a very important thing that a lot of people ignore right now. So next question. So I think it's very interesting that you mentioned your ministry speaks

10:48 · Divine counsel and medical care work together

10:54 about the power of divine counsel to bring restoration. So how do you see all this relationship between divine wisdom, faith, healing and the work of medical professionals intertwine? Or how the faith and the professional counsel intertwine? Actually, they complement each other, because the divine counsel will identify the root cause of every problem from the root, right? Once you get rid of the root cause, which is a spiritual invasion from the dark side, once you

11:24 get it out, right, and you replace it with light, the healing light, the body will naturally actually go in the form of healing. Then you can have professional care to further expedite the healing process. So actually it complements, it never clashes at all. It's a wholesome treatment. I see. So when people are facing serious illnesses or conditions that appear beyond expectations, how can you counsel them to seek healing, make wise decisions and continue appropriate medical care and hold on to the hope?

11:41 · The 50 protocols and counsel across faiths

11:57 Okay, so what happened is I teach people on the 50 protocols, and each protocol, when a person break, the corresponding consequences, and when they obey, their corresponding 50 benefits, right, including, you know, age reversal and bald head grow new hair, imagine, and a free trip to Heaven, you know, these are all the benefits. And also, you know, God will stand in front of you, uh, every morning, uh, there'll be a blessing, you know, waiting for you. Before you open your mouth, God would already answer what is in your heart. You

12:29 don't even need to open your mouth. So these are the blessings of obeying. You know, how do you help people? Okay, so what happened is when I look at the problem, they tell me that problem, I will firstly, okay, let's look at the protocol, let's see which area. Let's say if your physical problem, let's trace in your problem, let's say your certain pain in a certain area, then look at which protocol you break, and then just trace back. And then now, let's reflect: do you really do that? You see, I've counselled people from different faiths, some from Buddhist, some are free thinker, some are Malay

13:02 Muslims, and some can be Christians as well, or even backslidden. Regardless of whether, of whatever religion they are, this principle applies to them. So when I tell them, okay, she told me, like one lady, the Muslim lady in Dubai, told me, "I have this pain, don't know, at some part of my body," right? And I told her, "You know, you break this protocol, you know." And then she say, "Oh, um, but then, uh, how do I know that?" But I say, "You know, the universe, they give you a prompting not to do certain things, but you actually went ahead and did it. Did you?" She said yes. I say, "That's why you're having this problem,

13:35 you know." So, so she's a Muslim, but it doesn't matter which faith you are, it applies to you as long as you are human. That's a very interesting perspective. Thank you so much for sharing that. And I think, um, you mentioned again and again the, uh, Book 5, your Behold, My Messenger stories, you write about the power of resurrection of the dead. So could you please explain what you mean by the power of resurrection, and how does it relate to the understanding of the Creator of the Universe? Okay, the Behold, My Messenger 5, Behold, the Resurrection of the Dead,

13:45 · How Behold My Messenger 5 was written

14:11 actually that book itself was written by the Creator of the Universe. During one of my 18-hour training to my group of disciples, where I would see the Creator actually wrote on the green board in Heaven. They are writing and I'm just copying and speaking, you know. Just like today we're going to have a master class on how to have breakthrough in your life, right? It's the same thing. I see the Writer writing the message; I just basically, literally just transcribe word by word. I never even add one word

14:42 or subtract to the dot. So this is how all the five rules are written, and this is how later, during the master class, the Creator will show us how to get the breakthrough. So can you explain what you mean by the power of resurrection? So, power of resurrection: basically, what happens is when the Creator creates the first man, actually he actually lives forever, right? Because his spirit, soul and body is exactly like a Creator. Like father,

14:50 · The power of resurrection

15:13 like son. So if your father is a God, right, so you are the son or the daughter, you'll be like a mini God. You don't die. So what happened is, now we have to reverse back the fallen nature, which our flesh, our flesh has fallen. Before that, we are clothed with the Creator's character, like peace, love, joy, gentleness, kindness, meekness, humility, self-control, faithfulness, and hundred percent single, entire. Entire, meekness of love, patient, and obey

15:44 the Creator, you know, and in all the ways, always acknowledge Him, and He will always lead us in all these things, and be entire. All these are characteristics of the glory, the glorified body that the first man actually wear, which is actually a ball of light, and they don't die. But the moment man, the first man called Adam, first choose to say, "I want to make my own decision." You know, the Creator said, "You're not supposed to eat this forbidden tree. I give you a choice. I'm not going to make you a robot. So the moment you decided you don't want to obey Me, you want to make your

16:17 own choice to eat that forbidden apple, then you have actually fell." You lost that. Adam lost that glorified body called being perfected. That is the characteristic of the Creator. So what happened? God had to make skin, [unclear], like our skin, to clothe humanity. So this is a fallen nature. So how to go back into resurrection? Resurrection: you have to now undo the fallen nature and restore back the perfected nature. How do you do it? Through prayer, you cast out all the darkness. It's called

16:47 the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life. And then in your mind, your fallen mind, because a fallen mind, ever since humanity eat that fruits from the forbidden tree called the tree of knowledge and good, human knowing more what is good: this is good, this is bad, when this good is bad, right? Whereas in the past, they do not know what is good and what is bad. Everything is good, right? So what happens, when the moment they fall, they are always going back to that tree. So that tree is a cursed tree. The moment they eat that tree, throw away their ability, they lose 99%

17:22 of their ability as a divine being, as a son of God or the daughter of God, as a mini God. So what happens is, now we need to restore back to the, before the fall, the perfected nature, which is the divine brain, right? So we have to uproot this fallen brain called the carnal rational brain, and restore back the divine golden brain, which is the mind of the Creator, which is your Creator, you know, that created you. And at the same time, the view: we have to actually surrender our

17:54 self-view to the divine view. And the moment we do that, we actually no longer become a fallen man. We are restored back to a perfected man, you call the son of God, become an angel, right? An angel [unclear] die, right? So basically, a restoration from the dead, and you have to firstly cleanse the spirit, soul and body, and restore back all these things in them. At the same time, because I'm also a cosmos judge, or you call the judge at the Great White Throne, I represent the Creator in doing this task. I've access to every book of

18:18 · A bridge between Heaven and earth

18:28 every human, every country, and every solution and the breakthrough for all humanity and all countries. Their solution has been downloaded into me, so I'm the carrier of everybody's answer, breakthrough they're seeking, that you, their answer they are seeking for, has been downloaded to me. So I'm like a bridge between Heaven and earth, a solution for mankind. There's a reason. Uh, when a person lost, they [unclear] always, like, they've tried everything, they have no way out, right? Now we have to look up. And when you look up, you can't communicate to God; the

19:02 universe is so high up. But they have a representative here, which looks like a human being, right? And communicate and understand all the human struggle, because I also grew to a full human. I'm only 61 years old. So I live a full age, right, from entrepreneur to, uh, um, from a corporate banking, right, in the financial sector, in a corporate life, right? Then I was an entrepreneur. I'm doing hydroelectric power plant in

19:08 · A life of plenty and lack

19:32 China. And then after that, I was doing 10 years, or maybe five to seven years, of social service, where I minister to the drug addicts. I will pray for the drug addicts for five years. Every Monday to Friday, I will go to the halfway houses to pray for them, and I will pray for the blind, intellectually handicapped and the old folks. And, uh, also adopt a fatherless child as, uh, my son, and then, like, uh, like every month, like, put money on his table, because his mother, uh, actually was a divorcee, and he had a very retarded

20:04 brother, and then a very sick grandfather, and he was only 19 at that time. And then he was in a church, and everybody started to pay $50 to support him. After three months, everybody pulled out. And I told God, "It's too difficult to depend on so many people. Why don't You just choose one? Just choose me. I will just, you know, just choose me. Easier to deal with one person than to 10 in a group," you know. And then after that, then He tell me, "Well, would you be willing to give, set aside 20% of your income, you know, to do My work?" You know.

20:37 And then I said yes. At the moment, today, the next day, my husband's boss called him up. He said, "We start, we want to give you commission." He's in technical in sales. So that his income doubled overnight, like from 10,000 to 20,000, and because we agreed to be a channel, right? So, and, and, and then when, after seven years of plenty, right, and when, um, uh, one day, right, uh, my husband was being retrenched. And then, before he retired, he

21:08 had the Bible story that Joseph had seven years of [unclear]. "Now we're going to go to seven years of lack, or famine," you know. So, and literally, Heaven was closed for six years, until one day, when my... At that time, God asked me to... You know, the moment, the first day he lose his job, what did God ask me to do? Empty all my bank account, buy a tuition centre, give it to this boy, because he's graduated after four years, so that he can support his family. And then after that, I don't have to take care of him, right? And then, within that six years, after that, God made the share that my

21:40 husband was holding from the company, because at the management level, they give you some bonus share, they make the share price so high, and it's sold off; it's able to last us for six years. But we are very thrifty, even eat mouldy food. And then one day, one month, he told me, "Today, at the end of the month, our finance will be zeroised." So I look at Heaven and I say, "God, it's time to open Heaven." And I pray for Heaven to be open, and then pray for a headhunter to look for him. Within, I think, one week plus, like maybe eight to nine days, a

22:11 headhunter call him up, offer him a job, same pay as his previous pay. So it's like, you know, and during that year of, like, lack, right, we have like, we're very, very thrifty. My husband don't give me a single cent, right? He said, "It's your fault. You give away all the money, right? I'm not going to give you a single cent," right? And every cent that I want, that I need for my expenses, I can kneel down and cry out to God, "God, I need to pay for this and that," and I will be in tears. And then He will send me odd jobs, like freelance in, like, acting and

22:44 all that, or advertisement, you know, to pay for all the things. So it's how He see me through the last, like, five, six years. Like, supernatural. I've been through, like, you can see, plenty, and I've been through, like, lack, like every cent, you're on your knees to cry, you know. So, yeah. So God has chosen you to be representing, uh, for His own world. So Dr. SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP, asked the questions because you are presenting some of these ideas. So if

23:05 · Counsel for nations and leaders

23:17 presidents, prime ministers and international leaders, and people apparently, I think, unsolvable personal problems could seek wise counsel of [unclear] inspired by your own spiritual understanding, how might that change position today? See, what happened is, because I'm also acting as the judge of the cosmos, right? Or you can see Heavenly judge. Or the judge at the Great White Throne, being the two cherubim that guard the Ark of the Covenant on behalf of the Creator of the Universe. They will stand beside me giving their judgement, what is their decision,

23:51 right? And then I will just basically execute what they just stand there and tell me, right? And so every country I saw, what they do is, every country are being weighed on the scale. And then all the good and evil that's being done, right? And then after that, the computer will print out with the result. And what will happen to the country? You see, there's a sowing and reaping. So what happens if something happens to the country that is something that you've been sowing? And then the result is reap this kind of consequences.

24:21 So what happened, I had to open their book in their country and see what are the cases that is now in the heavenly court that the devil have against this country, they have asking for permission for certain things to happen for their country. And then I have to ask the God of the universe how to solve this problem. They will tell me, "This is how you solve it." They have to, probably have to repent, have to undo the wrong and then do whatever, you know, the instruction. And when they do that and really sincerely mean it, then I'm able to pray

24:51 to break that whatever the thing and call Satan, "Okay, now you retreat," and I call the angel now to release blessing to the country, because I [unclear] angels. Because the devil and God and the angels came to me and they, I mean, God is standing beside me all the time, but the devil and the angel report to me every day. Every day, because I'm, I'm acting as a ruler, as a judge of the cosmos. So the devil will come and report to me, right? And even sometimes Hades, if

25:22 you come on to take some of my loved ones, some of the somebody that I know, they will come and let me know, "Can I have your permission to take away this life?" You know, and uh, one of my disciples, right, I mean, her life is supposed to be taken like five years ago, but I was saying, "No, no, let's give her more time." I was pleading and pleading, and then uh, but until five years later, you know, and then God of universe: "No, you can't plead anymore. Five years is up. I give them maximum grace." And then when it was ringing the bell, want to come in, and He told me, "Don't open the door, because the time

25:54 is up. I already give enough warning. It's cut-off time," [unclear] night, because the devil, she's like unable to breathe, and, and then the God of universe standing beside me saying, "No, her time is, I give her a lot of grace. I've, I've listened to your plea up to the max." So I always will plea for every human being for, you know, give them a second chance. They do not know what they're doing, right? But the thing is, with the chance given, they must do something to undo the wrongs, really must determine to make their life count, so that I can continue to plea. That person is showing progress, even more time, you know?

26:27 So that's why I'm like acting as a bridge between Heaven and earth. I advocate for humanity, you know? And this is what I do when, let's say, a nation or the prime minister or the king, when they got a problem, they come to me. I will plead on behalf of them to the God of the universe, to the God of cause and effect, and then to see how to solve it. And then the person who come need to be humble, because now they are talking to the Creator of the universe, who determined their fate, their country's fate. Whether to withhold rain, three years no rain, or seven years no rain,

27:01 or to send rain, everybody is at the mercy of the Creator. And that's where I can come in to fill in that gap where no humanity can solve, because it's, you have to, God have to act. Sure. And to everyone else who wants to follow your work, also your teachings, what are some of the best channels that you recommend? Okay, firstly, I would suggest everybody, right, to go to our website, www.crowned,

27:16 · Where to follow the work: the five books

27:32 C-R-O-W-N-E-D, [unclear] eagles, with an S, global.org. Or you can go to Amazon worldwide to get our five Behold My Messenger books. Okay, Book One is talk about how to be saved, how to go to Heaven, okay, what must you do. And Book Two is talk about how are you going to work out your perfection, uh, to be, uh, the superman, you know, like to do all the miracles, uh, to be more than just a human, human, and to rule with the Creator,

28:04 what are the things you have to go through, the character molding. And Book Two is about the last day Bible. Talk about the creation from the Creator's perspective, the book of creation until the book of Revelation, where everything will be destroyed and there will be new Heaven and new earth. And this is actually, I saw word by word, right, when the Creator, right, I basically transcribed word by word and draw the drawing, I'm just tracing them, so that, uh, actually it also talk about world revelation, what is going to happen in the last day. For example, World War Three and Four, that is

28:35 the red horse that is going to happen, you know, and the black horse is, uh, the great pale horse. There'll be famine, uh, worldwide, where, what, human being will eat another human being. You know, they will see each other as food. It is that bad, you know. And by all these things, uh, um, the, the, the whole thing that's going to happen is in the third book called Behold My Messenger Three, Behold My Name. And the fourth book called Behold My Messenger Four, Behold the Great White Throne, talked about the judgment, that how the Creator, that book came down from Heaven, and then I saw it came down right into Crowned Eagles Global

29:08 venue. Then I saw the Creator wearing a white robe, start to write how He judged Christians, ministers, non-Christians, different country, different culture. Basically, for the Christians, He would judge them based on the teaching of Jesus. And for the non-Christians, they will judge them based on the Ten Commandments of Moses. And this is, I think, all the Commonwealth law, they are actually basing on the Ten Commandments. But in Heaven, it's the same thing. They will judge based on the Ten Commandments. Whether they are Christians or non-Christians, that's the Commandment of

29:39 Moses. So, it talks about different countries and the last days, when God is going to destroy the whole earth, what will happen? Like you can see, for example, Australia, right, you studied in Australia before, the western part of Australia, 50%, are we going to slide down into the Pacific Ocean. So you can see Australia will lose 50% of the men, uh, the, the mass, you know, the land mass. And, uh, different country, actually, in the book, fourth book, the, the, the Behold My Messenger Four, Behold the My Great White Throne

30:11 Judgment, it talked about every country, what was going to happen in the last days, right? And then, uh, and also, when you see that, you actually can know, okay, this is the standard expected of me. You can work towards it and undo whatever thing that you're doing. Actually, there's a time for them to reverse back, the undo, and doing what is right. So actually, the Creator told me why He wants to write all these books they are writing to me and to J AARON K DAVID. It's because they want humanity to have a second chance to undo before it is too late. And then the third book is the resurrection of the dead,

30:43 right? That's why you can resurrect a physically dead person, but that person must serve a purpose to be resurrected, and there are conditions. They also must have certain characteristics, like you can't be that bad. It must be at least have five fruit of the Holy Spirit out of nine, like peace, love, joy, that kind of things. And then the person, like the family, they're going to be resurrected, the person also, one condition, the Creator, right: you must be willing to give away 50% of your inheritance. So if you really, really love, really mean

31:19 it, right, you really, really have to show. And also you need to get 70% of your loved ones who are making the decision. Majority must agree, you know, because if they don't agree for the resurrection, then you resurrect them, they get very angry, because then they lose their inheritance. The father die, they are so happy, they get all the inheritance. You raise him up, they're very angry, because then they, right? So, so all these things count, you know. Yeah, thank you so much for sharing such a wonderful series, and I think our audiences will relate a lot to all the messages that you just shared.

31:52 · J AARON K DAVID on the perfected person

31:52 Now, now let's turn to Dr. J AARON K DAVID. For your profound sharing, Dr. J AARON K DAVID, I think he spoke about transforming humanity toward the highest state of human development, and the perfected person, [unclear], should be [unclear] to share. What does that transformation actually mean in your world? Okay. Basically, when God created the first man, Adam, he is

32:23 perfect actually, because he never dies. Only when he disobeyed God, then He said, "On that day when you eat the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, you will die." So actually, Adam did not… In fact, Adam died on that same day. What do I mean by that? Because in the Bible, Adam lives to the age of 930 years. But according to God's standard, one year is

32:56 a thousand years for the human beings. So Adam did not live past that one day actually. So what happened is Adam lost his perfection. He was made good. Everything is good when God created everything. So with Adam's fall, everything also falls. Creation went into corruption. Everything had to die. Everything has to be corrupted and die.

33:28 So when we're talking about restoring to be a perfect man, actually the first thing is restore to what we are created for, to have immortality, to live like God. So how to go back, how to define a perfect man? When God talks to those He takes as friends, just like Abraham, He said, "Be perfect.

33:59 Walk before Me, be perfect." Actually, He's talking about be wholehearted. Be 100% sold out to Me. Or be 100% entire and complete towards Me. It means 100% allegiance. So, the perfection comes in, first thing is merciful. So actually, God said He is a merciful God. How do we know God is a merciful God? Well, He actually is a long-suffering God that bears with all the evil that

34:12 · Mercy, obedience, purity and tranquillity

34:31 is happening all over the world since creation actually. And He always waited for a certain time, called the fullness of time, that He destroyed the ages. So there are many ages that He has destroyed. A common one is we know that during Noah's time, the flood came and destroyed everything except the ark. Chinese history has recorded it and Hindu history has recorded it and all ancient civilizations have recorded it actually, there is a great

35:06 flood. So basically, perfection is to be merciful like God. God. Perfection is to be obedient to God, and perfection is not to be worldly. Because when the first man fell, because he ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, well, since then, human beings have not been able to come out of this curse. It's a curse, actually.

35:38 So men are trying ways of trying to be perfect, you know, but perfection is only physical appearance. We have to go back to the perfection that is within the heart. God is a pure God, is a holy God. So first perfection is our heart must be pure, must be holy. And then God is a very, very tranquil God. He is not worked up or agitated or angry because of an evil person

36:11 or an evil occurrence or an evil deed. He is not worked up. That's why it takes a lot of, a long time for evil to be punished. And it takes a long time for the good and the righteous to receive comfort, or we call compensations, for all their good deeds. Because if God is going to be so easily worked up by emotion, then everybody

36:45 will die. But God is so long-suffering, and because He gives rain to the good and the evil. He is kind unto the unthankful and the thankful. So He is not worked up by emotion or by what is right and wrong. So He is very cool and He is very sober in terms of decision making. So He's not being swayed by someone who's crying and begging, or someone

37:16 who is so evil and shouting something at Him and challenging Him. It's not both. That is God. So to be perfect is to be like God. We cannot be affected by evil. We cannot be affected by emotions. We cannot be affected by the good or the bad. Because that's from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, actually. So He knows what He is doing, and we should be... To be a perfect man is to know what we are doing. We shouldn't be stirred up in our emotions to make wrong decisions. You are not perfect. You shouldn't be speaking things which will harm people.

37:51 We cannot control our tongue. We are not perfect because it starts from the heart. Because the Bible says, out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth will speak. So actually, you cannot stop the mouth from speaking anything that's already downloaded in the heart. So if a person is a person that is open to all rumours, all gossip, he will repeat what he hears. Or if a person is so involved with stocks, with gambling, or with any subject, you will see that it will always come out from his mouth.

38:24 So what is perfection? Perfection is actually, you have to take away, reduce every knowledge that you have that's from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, that have an appearance. You have to deduct all these things. So, there is a perfection called returning to the womb. That is the stage we have to go back to. It is called the untethered soul, where it is so tranquil, so

38:40 · Returning to the womb

38:55 peaceful, so cool, and I have experienced this. If you ask a baby or you ask an embryo how he felt when he was in the mother's womb, he will never be able to tell you, right? It's an embryo, right? But I received that feeling as an embryo, or we call it a baby that is yet to come out. Because there was once that I was going through a lot of tribulation, a lot of persecutions, a lot of injustice, but I maintained my perfection by forgiving, by hugging the person that abused me, by loving the person

39:29 that scoffed me and that insulted me, but I still hugged him. But as I hugged him, God comforted me on that night when I was in my hotel, crying and weeping and crying and weeping. Actually, God Himself, Heaven was open, and I heard a heavenly voice from Heaven. Angels are coming down. I heard, I feel the sprinkling of golden dust over

40:00 my body, and I feel it goes all over my body. My hair was standing. Every part of my hair was standing. It was quickening. And then I opened my eyes, and God said that you cannot hear or see Me in the physical. He said, close your eyes. So I closed my eyes, and then the angels continued to sing, and the music, heavenly music, heavenly instruments, you will never be able to describe. It's just heavenly instruments. Every piece of instrument, it was so clear because you are in the Spirit.

40:32 Everything was so distinct, so vivid. And then God brought me to pull my spirit out and go into a womb. And that's where I see, I was perfect. Why? Why? In the womb, in the womb of my father or my mother or the Heavenly Father, the womb, I was so secure, so peaceful, I do not want to come out.

41:04 Until somebody in the hotel knocked at the door and woke me up. If not, I will just get stuck in the eternity, actually, and that is the perfection: going back to where you actually are, untethered by all the voices of the world, all the concepts, all the so-called, seems to be answer to your problems. There's no answer for humanity, to tell the truth. Humanity is in a fallen state.

41:28 · Humanity's condition and the call to become like children

41:35 All the scientists and all, even Elon Musk said that we are actually heading to destruction. It is taking, saying that earth is no more, going to be no more, we have to head to Mars, you know, as a last resort. And all the billionaires are actually waiting for the great destruction. So they are buying bunkers, you know, for the nuclear holocaust, you know, they are buying nuclear energy, buying caves with all the swimming pools

42:07 and all the jacuzzi and everything, [unclear] supply. So that is the condition of humanity. So to be perfect is to be like God, to be like babies. As Jesus said, you know, unless you are reverted like babies and infants, you will never be able to see the Kingdom. Means you will never be able to walk with God, talk with God, escape these corruptions, you know. So perfection is to be merciful, to be like God, to be long-suffering, to be

42:39 unmoved by whatever is around you, in emotion or in mental. You know, sometimes God offends our mind to expose our heart. Yeah. He has offended our mind to expose our heart. So both sides, we must not be offended, we must not be moved, and that is what we call perfection. And when you reach that state, I tell you, Heaven will open to you. All the earth, so-called the beasts of the field, beasts of the forest,

43:01 · Heaven opens: the man of destiny

43:13 we call it spirits. If you know about New Age, if you know about religion, there are all kinds of spirits. Tree spirits, animal spirits, even the creeping things in the sea, all the spirits, like the octopus, like all kinds of spirits in Hinduism, in Buddhism, in many religions. There are spirits below. It is called beneath earth. Heavens, earth and beneath earth. All the spirits are bowed down to you because they see you as a mini-God,

43:46 as one that is a man of destiny that was created. A perfect man, according to the Taoist belief, zhenren, zhenren, completely real. [unclear] According to Christians, it's called being a Christ. Christ is the Son of God. You become a son of God. That's what I spoke of affectionately. Dr. J AARON K DAVID, thank you so much for sharing your experience. I have to admit that I have goosebumps when hearing you experiencing that

44:09 · Closing summary and blessing

44:17 spiritual event. And actually, thank you for sharing the advices of pursuing divine understanding and wisdom. I think that was great. [unclear]. Thank you so much. And ladies and gentlemen, I think right now we have explored two very exciting ideas. Where can humanity turn when it faces problems it cannot solve, through Dr. SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP. And secondly, what can humanity become when it discovers its highest calling and destiny, through Dr. J AARON K DAVID. Through our discussion with

44:48 Professor SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP, whose master profile records six doctorate-level recognitions, we have explored Heaven's counsel and divine counsel, and the challenges confronting humanity, and her spiritual teachings concerning healing, restoration, and resurrection. And secondly, through our discussion with Dr. J AARON K DAVID, whose master profile records three doctorate-level recognitions, we have explored the transformation of human character, theology, and divine understanding, leadership, and humanity's highest destiny. Together, their

45:21 teachings invite us to consider the relationship between spiritual wisdom, the Creator of the universe, human transformation, responsible leadership, and possibly of higher purpose for mankind. [unclear] again, ladies and gentlemen, our Behold My Messenger offers readers an opportunity to explore these teachings and spiritual testimonials further. We sincerely thank Prof. (Hon.) Dr. SHEKINAIH SIEW SIN YAP and Dr. J AARON K DAVID for joining us today.

45:52 Thank you. Thank you. Wonderful. Thank you to our audiences here for being part of this special podcast, Heaven's Solutions for Mankind and the Highest Destiny of Mankind. May our discussion inspire continuing reflection, wisdom, purposeful leadership, and the transformation of humanity. Thank you so much. And God bless every one of you. Thank you. Thank you.

46:22 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay.

47:14 Thank you.